Meanwhile, My Friend Bought A Thing

"Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo" (rustyvandura) 04/03/2016 at 23:07 • Filed to: None

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$1,100. Expensive toy. .45 ACP. Nice gun.

Sam > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 04/03/2016 at 23:17

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Jeez, $1,100? Kimber does make good stuff I guess. But that’s only slightly less than what I’m gonna spend when I pick up one of these bad boys -

(I’m going to get a .50 in 24k, I like the subtlety more than titanium gold)

And before you ask, yes I’m going to carry it in a shoulder holster. Probably only once.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Sam 04/03/2016 at 23:19

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My cousin owns one of those in brushed stainless. Calibre .50. Lots of gun. Lots and lots of gun.

You can tell a Finn but you can't tell him much > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 04/03/2016 at 23:20

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9mm? I’ve got a Custom II in .45. Kimber makes some nice guns. And fairly reasonably priced too. It's crazy what you can spend on a 1911.

Sam > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 04/03/2016 at 23:23

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It will be completely pointless for anything other than showing off and shooting for fun (expensive fun). Honestly, I wouldn’t even risk firing it at an assailant unless we were being invaded by the Russian military or something. You could probably just beat them with it.

If you shot it at someone in public, you would likely get a double-kill on some random person. i.e. bad. It would be really bad.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > You can tell a Finn but you can't tell him much 04/03/2016 at 23:29

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ACP

V12 Jake- Hittin' Switches > Sam 04/03/2016 at 23:31

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How much does a Desert Eagle in 50 A.E go for

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Sam 04/03/2016 at 23:31

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Ruger Super Alaskan @ .454 Casull. Now, there’s a handfull of handgun...

You can tell a Finn but you can't tell him much > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 04/03/2016 at 23:37

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Then it’s either 7+1 if that’s a full length grip, or 5+1 (or maybe 6+1) if it’s a short grip.

Sam > V12 Jake- Hittin' Switches 04/03/2016 at 23:41

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A normal one is $1,200. Gold is ~$1,600. Really the ammo is the most expensive part. It’s like $1.50/round (doesn’t sound expensive, but it is when you compare it to like 9mm at ~50 cents a piece)

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > You can tell a Finn but you can't tell him much 04/03/2016 at 23:41

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You are likely correct. I just went off what Dude told me, but he was probably mistaken.

Sam > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 04/03/2016 at 23:45

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There’s a Smith & Wesson .500 for sale at my local shop. That thing is like a freaking rifle. It’s ludicrous.

Me and my buddy actually talked about how one of the best home defense weapons against your usual unarmed junkies would be a crossbow. No one will try to break into your house if they see a guy come running out with a few of these going through his shoulder -

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Sam 04/03/2016 at 23:49

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On those big wheel guns, as long as the barrel’s not longer than four inches... Otherwise, they’re just dumb, even for a mountain gun. For home defense, .38 spl hollow point is ideal. Chief’s special revolver.

The Ghost of Oppo > Sam 04/03/2016 at 23:51

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Sam > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 04/03/2016 at 23:53

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Oh yeah the .38 spl hollow point is the best home defense (and usually is plenty for an EDC), but I’m saying if it’s a practical situation where you can use one, a crossbow will make nobody want to fuck with you ever again. I would say that an arrow wound may even be better, because if the perp escapes it’d be very hard to cover up an arrow sticking out of your torso and very painful to just rip it out.

66671 - 200 [METRIC] my dash > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 04/04/2016 at 00:05

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10 rounds of .45 ACP in a compact? Is it double stack? Looks dope regardless.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Sam 04/04/2016 at 00:26

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Um, buck-fifty a round for pistol sounds expensive to me...

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > 66671 - 200 [METRIC] my dash 04/04/2016 at 00:27

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Not sure about that. I was just going off what he told me. I haven’t loaded it or fired it.

Sam > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 04/04/2016 at 00:30

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People who don’t know how much ammo someone can burn through wouldn’t know. I didn’t know if Jake was in the know or not.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Sam 04/04/2016 at 00:34

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Yeah. Ten rounds of ACP is a lot. Personally, I think five or six is good in most self defense situations because in the unlikely event that you ever have to present the firearm, zero rounds will probably do the job. And hopefully, if you have to fire, you’ll be firing and not spraying and praying.

Clown Shoe Pilot > Sam 04/04/2016 at 00:41

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If you’re only going to carry it once, just rent it at the range :)

Shour, Aloof and Obnoxious > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 04/04/2016 at 00:45

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I admit, I think Kimbers are pretty, and they shoot great.

But much like many cars, the performance just doesn’t justify the premium for me. FOR ME.

But for you? Awesomesauce. I am teh jellies.

V12 Jake- Hittin' Switches > Sam 04/04/2016 at 01:23

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Yeah, all of my pistols are antique collectibles. I have a Luger, an old .380 semi(no idea what make), and a .45 long colt. It'd be funny to get my C&C and carry a .45 long colt...not exactly a small gun.

samssun > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 04/04/2016 at 01:41

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.45 cases are huge and that’s a compact, so it’s 7+1 unless it’s a double stack, which I don’t think Kimber makes. Para Ordnance does, but if you want capacity you might as well go 9mm and have 18-20 rounds.

LOREM IPSUM > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 04/04/2016 at 01:52

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I respectfully disagree.

The increased trigger pull of a double action revolver often causes a major loss of accuracy.

Granted, if you’ve already got the hammer back then the first shot is at a much reduced pull, and in such a situation the first shot is the most important (because if you’re firing at them they must pose an imminent threat and must possess equal or greater force for your shoot to be justified in most areas.)

Problem is, if they are also armed with a firearm and your first shot does not disable them they may be able to return fire, at which point the increased trigger pull and loss of accuracy may put you at a significant disadvantage... Especially in the gravest extreme, under duress and while full of adrenaline.

A quality .45 or .40 chambered with a semi jacketed hollow point is the way to go for home defense IMHO.

Anon > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 04/04/2016 at 03:09

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I have a Ruger 44 mag that just about murders you with a maxed out round. I can’t imagine what a .454 would do.

BruceS85 > Sam 04/04/2016 at 03:37

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I shot one once. It belonged to a friend of my brother-in-law. For a guy like me, who only shoots handguns occasionally (9mm or .45), this thing was an ass-kicker.

Scott > You can tell a Finn but you can't tell him much 04/04/2016 at 07:24

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Not sure if your saying that because you are familiar with the Pistol, or you are just assuming. I'm not familiar with this particular pistol, but 10+1 is certainly possible. My Glock is a 10+1 and I have a Springfield Armory that is 12+1. Considering the length of the grip, I might be willing to buy that it is a 10+1... again lacking any particular knowledge of this Pistol.

TheDudeAbides_(version 2.0) > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 04/04/2016 at 08:28

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As far as I knew the Ultra Carry II was 7+1.

Funktheduck > Sam 04/04/2016 at 08:38

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These are too big for my hands. I've never shot one but did hold one in a store. They're cartoonishly large.

Party-vi > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 04/04/2016 at 09:23

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Just went to practice with my dad this weekend - had a chance to put five rounds through his S&W500. God damn is that a fun gun to shoot. Almost guaranteed to be the biggest thing at the pistol lanes. I would not recommend one if you’re not very social - everyone has questions about it. Also, ammo is expensive at around $2.50-$3.50 a shot, but it’s not as bad as .32 Stevens.

Rico > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 04/04/2016 at 10:13

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TIL they manufacture guns in Yonkers. That’s actually pretty interesting.

jmedarts > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 04/04/2016 at 10:31

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1911's are fun to shoot, and have so much cool factor, but carrying “cocked & locked” scares the hell out of me, as does the super light trigger they all try for. I will own one someday, but not soon, and i doubt I’ll ever carry it.

You can tell a Finn but you can't tell him much > Scott 04/04/2016 at 11:43

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TL;DR - I’m familiar with Kimber pistols as I’ve got one.

I’ve got a Kimber Custom II which is the big brother of the Carry II series of Kimbers. The Custom II and the Carry II models are all single stack 1911* pistols which in a full size pistol means 7+1** capacity. Some of the Carry pistols have a short barrel with a full sized grip while some have a shortened grip as well. They are all single stack, so 7+1 is the largest capacity they can have.

Glock pistols are generally double stack, which leads to significantly higher capacity, as are the XD/XDM series of pistols which I’m assuming your Springfield Armory pistol is

Round size also has a big effect on capacity. The .45 ACP is a pretty big round, especially when you stack it up next to a 9mm which is very common in double stack pistols.

* The Kimbers aren’t true 1911 pistols as they have improvements/modifications/variations, but they are close enough that everyone except pedants refers to them as 1911's.

** Wilson Combat makes some magazines that allow for 8 round capacity in a standard size magazine.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > LOREM IPSUM 04/04/2016 at 16:08

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The vast majority of folks are entirely untrained in handling their firearms safely, except for the boxes of rounds they throw downrange at the community range. My suspicion is that in the preponderance of cases in which a homeowner actually presents the handgun, they will accomplish the job with zero shots fired.

Recently, there was a noise in the street that aroused me from sleep. I stumbled over to the bedroom window to see what was going on and I couldn’t see a thing, not least, because I hadn’t donned my eyeglasses. To think of picking up a handgun and subsequently using it effectively is a rather daunting prospect. In my case, choosing between the Chief’s Special, the 4-inch Model 66 in .357 magnum, or the compact Glock in .45 ACP would slow me down, after hoping that I’d gotten the gun safe open on the first try. I’d probably grab the Chief because it is so manageable. Then again, I’ll probably win the lottery sooner than I’ll have to fend off an invader of my home, so the point is almost moot.

Boils down to what you’re most comfortable using, it seems to me. Sword, dagger or dirk?

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Party-vi 04/04/2016 at 17:51

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Hadn’t heard of that one. Had to look it up.